So Ro and I were having a conversation that I thought I'd continue on here. Has anyone else every noticed how much more difficult it is to make a movie nowadays than it was in the past. I'm on a neverending quest to help catch Ro up with all the iconic 80's movies of my youth, and it's really not her fault she hasn't seen them, it's mine. If I wasn't a pedophile, and dating a 12 year old, then I wouldn't have this problem... nonetheless here is where I stand. So it wasn't until I rewatched most of these movies with a fresh set of eyes that I realized, plot holes and unexplainable logic jumps are simply a part of movie past. Look at Weird Science. That movie makes no sense.
So to be a "good" movie now, you it has to be damn near perfect in all aspects. Look at the Matrix 2 & 3. Awesome special effects, and I would say that MOST of the movies individual aspects were great. But it wasn't enough - the movies sucked. Today we want to know the how's and why's to every little thing. We want to believe. I had to prep Ro for Superman I. I don't know if any have you ever noticed, but the part where Lois dies, and Superman gets so enraged he just starts flying as fast as he can around the world... and then the world slowly stops spinning and the starts going the other way, and all of the sudden Time is being reversed as well... yeah, we accepted that in the 80's. Not so much today. If I could go back in time, I'd change that one part of the movie and I think it would then be good even by today's standards.
So the question I want to ask you, Can you think of any other movies that "should" have been good... but one part just kinda ruins it all for you. Or if you don't like that option, how about give me an old, popular, 80's movie that had something incredibly ridiculous in it, but everyone just accepted it back then.
That's all folks.
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I can't think of any right now at the top of my head. I agree about the Matrix films I believe they over did the special effects in the second film as for the third installment I just didn't like it. I do have the first one on tape nothing like the orginal.
Rob & Rene` it looks like we got some pretty good stuff in the mail today. Everything thrown at us except the kitchen sink from porn, fire trucks, religious booklets advertisement you know the ususal stuff. Some reason it seemed to be more funnier this time around we received a pamplet about God's Camel many the camel was created by God not by evolution, we also got in the mail advertisement about some kind of Sandhill Crane bird plush toy, a big picture of President Bush written on it the Antichrist Superhero with the number 666 on his forehead and the neo nazi signs around him, and we received three fake dollar bills with John Kerry on it picking his nose and some other stuff on it. Audrey, Bob and myself we all have one of those three dollar bills.
Freemama
Back to the Future...not sure which one, but there's NO way the car was powered by a rotting banana peal. IMPOSSIBLE! Plus, the special effects by today's standards suck. It was a great series of movies...but at the same time...Marty changed history, and yet he was able to return to the future only slightly altered (of course for the better!). NOPE.
Adventures in Babysitting...I LOVED that movie as a small girl. Looking at it today, that movie REALLY is not good!
Tabitha
My almost good movie is a little more recent: the early 90s scifi almost thriller "Contact." (Which was nowhere near as cool as PBS's "321 Contact.") There's one point in the film where the scientists and pals are looking at an alien transmission. They bring the static into focus on a swastika. ("Oooo," the audience thinks, "Nazi aliens! This explains everything!") But no. Turns out the aliens are just bouncing back our own video feeds from the 1930-whatever Olympic games in Germany. Totally lame.
Interestingly, I can't think of any movies with weird logic gaps that aren't based on something scientific...maybe just a general downfalling of the genre? Of course, there's always "Space Girls from Beyond Infinity"...
Lisa
Rob, Rob. What have I told you about pedophilia? DON'T ADMIDT IT IN WRITITG. Especially on the internet, seriously dude you'll get busted. Legal advice aside, I am often amazed at what we generally accepted in the eighties.
I mean, just take a look at the 'so called' Never Ending Story. It ends. About an hour and 30 minutes into the story it just abruptly draws to a close like a swift kick to the balls. I'm not actually sure how it's like a kick to the balls, but it IS abrupt and unpleasant. Especially with the assumption that it would somehow run the rest of your life.
The thing about Superman's going back in time...yeah that's not cool. As Jerry Seinfeld once said "I don't like that going back in time stuff...What's the point of anything if you can just go back and change it?" I also question the physics of it. Sure he fly's madly around the globe. But wouldn't that just make it windy? Or if you argue that his increased speed gives him an insane amount of relativistic mass and therefore gravity, allowing him to pull the Earth into a reverse rotation...why would that turn back time? Bugger it.
Anyway I just woke up confused, and in someone else's dorm room. So I think I'll get off this computer before the owner shows up. I'm out
- Scott
I add to the mix: Action adventure cartoons of the 80's. They were chock full o' continuity issues. The theory goes that most entertainment industry people in the 80's were so coked out that they... didn't even notice.
"Hey, let's make a... like a bunch of cats. But they're big like people. And they land on this planet and build a cat fortress and they're like... like superheroes. But there's no one else on the planet except the bad guy so they don't so much save other people as... themselves. Oh and the chick can be hot."
And most 80's action films are just sad. They're just sad. And not in comparison to today's CGI enhanced everything. Compare them to the first Star Wars made in '78 (the year of the Wendyloo)or Bladerunner in 81. I really think the film industry in the 80's was just hopped up on goofballs and not even remotely concerned with continuity or... logic so much as blowing stuff up. Any stuff. Train car full of potato peels falling off a cliff? Explosion. Clown car crashing into a mail box full of jell-o? Explosion.
Don't mix drugs and film making, kids. Nothing good can come of it... except The Wall. Or Easy Rider. Hmmph, there goes that theory.
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